Archive for the ‘EMR Stimulus Package’ Category
December 01, 2009
Patty Enrado, Contributing Editor
Long before ARRA, more than five years ago, the University of California San Francisco (UCSF) Medical Center began a $50 million electronic medical record initiative. This past summer, UCSF reportedly wrote off a third of that cost and scrapped its contract with the EMR vendor. The EMR system reportedly had technical difficulties that never enabled it to be fully functional. Undeterred, UCSF is forging ahead with its goal of digitizing its patient records, which says a lot about its faith in EMRs.
UCSF Medical Center isn’t the first healthcare system to have a costly, disastrous experience, and it won’t be the last. Industry stakeholders, however, need to work together to ensure that the number of failures dwindle significantly.
The most important thing that the EHR/EMR market can do for itself is to be transparent. If there is no transparency, how can healthcare systems perform accurate due diligence? There’s a business reason for non-disclosure clauses in sales contracts, which prevent purchasers from reporting problems with the health IT vendor or their products, and “hold harmless” clauses, which exempt vendors from any liability. It may guarantee a risk-free business environment for the health IT vendor, but it hurts the EMR market and eventually hurts the health IT vendor’s reputation. Clinicians and healthcare organization executives may be obligated to remain silent about the product and/or the vendor’s problems, but they will talk informally to their counterparts in other healthcare organizations. You’ve heard the complaints. You know which health IT companies did what to whom.
Transparency need not be the enemy of health IT companies if they have solid products and customer support. For those that have had problems - and I’m not saying they have bad products or customer support - it’s a business imperative to fix those problems. There are less-expensive, more flexible EMR solutions that have come into the market in the last year. There will be other UCSF Medical Centers that cut off their legacy vendor and start anew.
There are some in the industry who say so long as the federal stimulus incentives help subsidize the purchase of legacy systems the problems will continue. University of Pennsylvania sociologist Ross Koppel believes the federal government should have put that money to use by developing “more usable and more responsible software.” I think that route would have been successful as a first step, though I still believe in the incentives. There are some who believe the federal government should regulate the EMR industry. If that sounds odious, then perhaps the EMR industry ought to regulate itself.
As for healthcare providers, they need to understand the enormity of the task. What I mean is that they need to not only put up the cash for the initiative but dedicate human resources to the initiative. Dedicate a team, if that is what is required.
I’d be remiss not to mention that for every UCSF there is a UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center) - large healthcare systems that have successfully implemented big-budget EMRs and are reaping administrative and clinical benefits. The problem is there aren’t enough of them. And that’s why there is hesitation among healthcare systems. As an industry, let’s try to increase those success stories.
Above article published on http://www.healthcareitnews.com/blog/how-healthcare-industry-can-increase-number-successful-ehremr-initiatives
November 10, 2009
BY DR. SCOTT RANSOM
When Dr. Henry Plummer developed the concept of the “unit record” nearly 100 years ago, his idea was to place all of a patient’s records in a single file that traveled with the patient and could be stored in a central repository. His concept of medical care continuity quickly became the standard for medical record keeping worldwide.
I wonder what Dr. Plummer would make of today’s adoption of electronic medical records (EMR) by U.S. health care providers? After all, the concept is basically the same, just expanded to take advantage of today’s capacious electronic storage and retrieval methods.
Even the federal government has gotten into the act, defining a complete EMR system as containing four basic functions: computerized orders for prescriptions, computerized orders for tests, reporting of test results and physician notes.
In a perfect world, an EMR system tracks a patient’s entire health and medical history in a computerized, electronic format that is accessible wherever the patient is. These records are more easily retrievable than manual systems, and can make a patient’s navigation through the health care system much safer and more efficient.
But it’s hardly a perfect world. Even though the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 has made the promotion of a national, interoperable health information system a priority, EMRs have not been adopted nearly as quickly in the U.S. as one might expect. Issues, including the high cost, lack of standardization, security and privacy have stood in the way of implementation.
A recent study from the New England Journal of Medicine points out that hospital EMR adoption rates are still abysmal, concluding that only about 8 percent of the 3,000 hospitals studied by researchers used even a basic EMR in a single unit, which included nurse or physician notes. And only 1.5 percent of non-federal U.S. facilities use a comprehensive EMR.
This seems counter-intuitive, especially when one considers the numerous advantages of EMRs, starting with efficiency. Information stored in an electronic format can be retrieved easily at the touch of a button or the click of a mouse. Search and retrieval times are a fraction of what they would be in manual systems. At the very least, this saves time by eliminating the need to complete the old manual medical history forms at a new physician’s office. This also reduces the chance for error when a patient forgets to list certain prescribed medications or supplements. It’s all there in one easily accessible record.
But efficiency isn’t the only benefit. For patients, access to good care becomes easier and safer when records can easily be shared. Important information — such as blood type, prescribed drugs, medical conditions and other medical history aspects — can be accounted for much more quickly. Doctors and other medical personnel can retrieve these medical records from anywhere using handheld devices like an iPhone, which allows them to continue treatment no matter where they are. And, in case of emergency, information can be shared with emergency room physicians who can then order diagnostic tests and share results online.
Another benefit is safety. It’s estimated that nearly 98,000 patients die annually by preventable medical errors of some type. It’s entirely possible that these numbers could be greatly reduced by a comprehensive medical history information generated through an EMR system.
The Mayo Clinic is setting the standard for EMR implementation. With one of the largest such systems in the world, all medical documentation relating to a patient’s care – physician notes, laboratory reports, surgical dictations, copies of correspondence, appointment schedules, X-rays, ultrasounds, CT and MRI scans, echocardiograms – is instantly available to caregivers via more than 16,000 computer terminals on Mayo’s three campuses. The efficiencies created by simply typing a few identifying keystrokes to retrieve a patient’s record saves a doctor’s practice or a hospital many thousands of dollars. That’s even taking the cost of the electronic system into account.
Even the federal government thinks electronic record keeping is important. Veterans’ hospitals across the country share an electronic system called VistA, which shares records of veterans in its health system. Should a patient find him or herself in a VA hospital, even away from home, the hospital will have the same access to his or her records that the hometown hospital does.
It’s interesting to note that a recent report from PricewaterhouseCoopers’ Health Research Institute contends that Medicaid penalties might do more to boost EMR adoption than incentives, like available funding to physicians to purchase and implement EMRs. According to the report, “Provisions in the stimulus law that call for cuts in Medicare reimbursements, rather than a multibillion-dollar incentive program, will do more to push the adoption of electronic medical records among hospitals and doctor practices by 2015.”
However EMR adoption happens, it’s critical that it happen sooner rather than later. The health care industry’s ability to provide efficient, coordinated, safe and high-quality care is only enhanced by the rapid availability of accurate data. And with the availability of solid data, researchers can also use the EMR to analyze large amounts of patient information more efficiently, speeding the application of new research findings and vastly improving patient care in the future.
Just as Dr. Plummer saw beyond the information exchange limitations of his era, we can see the benefits of using the latest technologies for the practice of continuity in 21st century medicine. But the goal, just as it was in Dr. Plummer’s time, or even going as far back as Hippocrates and his famous oath, is still nobly laudable: “First, do no harm.”
Above article published on http://www.fwbusinesspress.com/display.php?id=11302
November 09, 2009
Last week, HHS released an interim final rule updating the HIPAA privacy and security rules to correspond with the stricter penalties imposed under the federal economic stimulus package, Healthcare IT News reports.
The health IT provisions of the stimulus package increased fines for health care organizations that experience a breach of protected health data.
The interim final rule will take effect Nov. 30. HHS said it will consider public comments on the rule until Dec. 29 (Monegain, Healthcare IT News, 11/2).
Rule Details
In its interim rule, HHS described four categories of health data security violations:
The rule establishes financial penalties ranging from $100 to $50,000 for each violation. It also sets a maximum yearly penalty of $1.5 million for all violations of an identical provision (Goedert, Health Data Management, 10/30).
Under the new rule, a health care organization can no longer avoid penalties for not knowing about a violation unless it fixes the problem within 30 days of identifying it (Mosquera, Government Health IT, 10/30).
Enforcement Still Unclear
The interim rule does not amend any of the HIPAA enforcement provisions included in the federal stimulus package.
Although the stimulus package calls for “periodic audits” to ensure HIPAA compliance, HHS has yet to release specific details about its audit and enforcement plans (Nicastro, HealthLeaders Media, 10/30).
The interim rule suggests that HHS will release further details about HIPAA enforcement during subsequent rulemaking
Above article published on http://www.ihealthbeat.org/articles/2009/11/2/hhs-releases-interim-final-rule-strengthening-hipaa-penalties.aspx
November 05, 2009
By Neil Versel
EMRs might be able to give early warning about patients who are at risk for domestic abuse, new research suggests. A study published in BMJ (formerly the British Medical Journal) this week found that data from well-populated EMRs were able to predict future diagnoses of injuries and assaults that could indicate domestic abuse 10 to 30 months in advance.
Researchers from Harvard Medical School analyzed more than half a million de-identified electronic records that contained at least four years of data on adult patients and developed a scoring system based on risk factors for abuse, including alcoholism, ER visits for injuries, depression and psychosis. “Our model predicted abuse two years before it appeared on medical records,” lead author Ben Reis, an informatics specialist, told the Boston Globe.
Reis’ research team will expand their work to other health problems in hopes of creating a screening-support system that could be integrated into EMR systems in the future. “With increasing amounts of data becoming available, this work has the potential to bring closer the vision of predictive medicine, where vast quantities of information are used to predict individuals’ future medical risks in order to improve medical care and diagnosis,” he said, according to Health Imaging & IT.
Above article published on http://www.fierceemr.com/story/emrs-could-be-key-future-predictive-medicine/2009-10-01#ixzz0VybkiMHw
October 30, 2009
By Dr. Raj Bhandari and Terry L. Austen
Special to the Mercury News
Patients in the Kaiser Permanente San Jose Hospital are seeing something new when a physician or nurse visits their rooms. The doctors and nurses themselves aren’t different; they continue to provide their patients with superior care and service.
But a piece of equipment they bring with them — a wheeled cart with a computer screen on top — is a significant difference, and it’s an example of what will help dramatically improve health care in America.
The cart-borne computer is wirelessly connected to a huge database containing the medical history of our members, as well as the latest recommended treatments for a wide range of medical conditions. The database contains all outpatient and inpatient visit information, diagnostic images such as X-rays and mammograms, allergies, specialists’ notes, lab tests and prescriptions. And it is all part of KP HealthConnect, the largest nongovernmental electronic medical record (EMR) system in the United States.
Electronic medical records are a cornerstone of President Barack Obama’s health reform effort, and as part of his effort to stimulate the economy, he has dedicated some $19 billion to make EMRs a national reality.
Why? Electronic medical records improve the quality of care. A fully functional EMR system gives physicians, nurses and technicians a patient’s comprehensive medical history at the point of care, whether it’s in the doctor’s office, the emergency room or in a skilled nursing facility. It is also remotely accessible for specialists and others who are on call, allowing them to make informed decisions that expedite patient care.
EMRs have the potential to increase efficiency and contain costs by reducing duplication and improving patient safety, and they do this by harnessing the incredible power of computers — their ability to calculate, to network, to automatically check facts and to provide targeted research results — and applying that power to medical care.
In health care systems with fully implemented electronic medical records, physicians and nurses no longer need to spend valuable time looking through several files for paper records that are often incomplete.
Now, for example, emergency department physicians with a fully functional EMR system can see a patient’s previous hospitalizations, medications and diagnoses when that patient shows up complaining of chest pains. That means treatment can begin more quickly and success is more likely.
Medication is safer, too: Prescriptions written by physicians using the EMR system are spell-checked and legible, and the computer automatically combs the patient’s history for potentially dangerous drug interactions and alerts the doctor.
In the hospital, medications are bar-coded and scanned at bedside to help ensure the right patient is getting the right drug in the right dose at the right time.
Of course, EMRs should not be a one-way street. In integrated health care systems, patients can use their home computers to increase convenience by making appointments online, ordering prescription refills that are delivered to their home, viewing their lab results through secure Web pages, and e-mailing their physicians — all at no additional cost.
Last year, thanks to these online tools tied to EMRs, Kaiser Permanente members had 6 million e-visits without using a gallon of gas.
Notes jotted on paper and placed in multiple files where doctors rarely see them are a remnant of a fragmented, inefficient model of medical care. In the 21st century, Americans expect — and deserve — more.
Dr. Raj Bhandari is physician-in-chief and Terry L. Austen is senior vice president and area manager for Kaiser Permanente San Jose Medical Center. They wrote this article for the Mercury News
Above article published on http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_13534802
October 28, 2009
By Neil Versel,
More than three-quarters of healthcare executives surveyed by PricewaterhouseCoopers say that information contained in EMRs could become their most valuable asset over the next five years as “secondary use” of EMR data takes off. But this won’t happen until technology improves, more standards get harmonized and, most importantly, the healthcare industry resolves lingering privacy concerns, according to a PwC survey released early this morning.
With billions of dollars in federal health IT stimulus funds set to flow into healthcare in the next few years, secondary use of electronic health data will “grow exponentially,” PwC says, citing a finding that 65 percent of healthcare executives expect their data-mining activity to spike within two years. About 90 percent of respondents believe that secondary use of EMR data will help their organizations make significant improvement to the quality of care.
There may be some legal barriers to overcome, however, before healthcare organizations can unleash the full power of patient-specific healthcare data. Also of concern to healthcare executives are privacy implications of data mining and the bad PR that could result from unauthorized use. This study literally just hit the wires, but we can’t wait to hear Dr. Deborah Peel’s thoughts on this last point.
Above article published on http://www.fierceemr.com/story/healthcare-execs-see-emr-data-their-most-valuable-asset/2009-10-01#ixzz0VEq13Kan
September 21, 2009
Advisory panel considers privacy proposals
By Alice Lipowicz A federal advisory panel today heard several proposals about how to best protect patient privacy while creating and sharing electronic health records (EHRs).
The Health Information Technology Policy Committee convened to prepare recommendations to the Health and Human Services Department on distributing $19 billion in economic stimulus funding for incentive payments for EHRs and health information exchanges. The bulk of the money will go to doctors and hospitals that buy certified record systems and participate in the exchanges. HHS is expected to issue a rule by year’s end.
Dr. Deborah Peel, founder of the Coalition for Patient Privacy, said the core of privacy is patient control of the information in EHRs.
“The right to privacy and control is the national consensus,” Peel said, “It reflects centuries of medical ethics. We are asking you to set a high bar for privacy to meet with patients’ expectations.”
She suggested patients should be allowed to consent, or not consent, to each disclosure of the information, and for the information to be segmented to maintain different levels of disclosure for different pieces of information. Industry does not want to change its practices, so it is best if regulations are created to enforce patient consent management rules, she added.
However, patient consent, by itself, has not proven to be effective tool, asserted Deven McGraw, a member of the advisory panel and director of the health privacy project at the Center for Democracy and Technology.
“Although the concept of patient control is very appealing, consent does not work the way we want it to,” McGraw said. “Consent does not provide protection.”
That is because health insurers often require blanket consent forms in which patients authorize a very broad variety of uses and disclosures that are not well understood by patient, she said. Patients don’t really have a choice, because if they don’t sign the consent form, the insurer will deny coverage, McGraw said.
The solution is to include patient consent in a comprehensive framework of technical and legal standards for IT systems, networks, practices and training, along with other features, she said.
The committee also heard discussions about the use, disclosure, secondary use and stewardship of the personal health data. It also is considering audits and accountability for the EHR systems and models for data exchange, data storage, data de-identification and re-identification.
In July, a separate advisory committee to HHS, the Health IT Standards Committee, considered specific recommendations for patient privacy that included encryption, strong access controls and audits.
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September 09, 2009
Experts say success hinges on the outcomes of these decisions
By Alice Lipowicz Former President George W. Bush urged doctors and hospitals to go digital on their own, with a few booster shots of federal help. Consequently, progress was slow. But the pace of change has been increasing since President Barack Obama has made health IT a priority and Congress put some real money on the table. Under the economic stimulus law passed earlier this year, as much as $45 billion will be distributed to health care providers who buy and use approved electronic health record systems.
The road ahead is still bumpy for EHRs, but experts say success hinges on the outcomes of five major decisions.
1. Strong standards or wiggle room? Officials at the Health and Human Services Department have the daunting task of creating a framework for certifying EHR systems that are capable of collecting and sharing patient data in ways that satisfy the broader goals of the stimulus law. A critical question is whether HHS can strike the right balance between strong rules and flexibility.
“There is always a trade-off between innovation and any kind of a certification process,” said Wes Rishel, a vice president and distinguished analyst at Gartner’s health care provider research practice.
2. Broaden the meaning of “meaningful use?” In the stimulus law, Congress said only doctors and hospitals that show meaningful use of EHRs can receive incentive payments. That language was meant to prevent the buying of systems that sit idle or are not used as intended. Key decisions for HHS are how broadly and stringently to apply the meaningful-use framework to meet major goals, such as cost savings, improved care and better public health.
3. Take baby steps or giant leaps forward? To help HHS meet its fast-approaching deadlines, an advisory committee urged the agency to immediately set up a temporary program that would allow an existing organization to certify vendors’ EHR systems until more permanent arrangements could be made.
Dr. Carol Diamond, managing director of the Markle Foundation’s Health Program, said HHS should allow the same sort of flexibility for providers to meet EHR-use goals. Some are already using EHRs, but others lag far behind, she added. “We still live in the real world,” she said. “You cannot get up to speed all at once.”
4. Let the states lead the way on data exchange? The ultimate goal of health information technology is the automatic sharing of patient data. The reasoning goes that if providers exchange patient data with government agencies and one another, analysts can identify trends and send the results back to doctors and hospitals to help them provide better care and reduce costs.
For now, a little sugar is making the medicine go down easier — such as the $564 million in state grants for health information exchanges that HHS announced in August. But the agency still has a key decision to make on the federal government’s role in creating that data network.
“You have to either grow the state exchanges that will be connected or try to seed from the top,” said Deven McGraw, director of the Center for Democracy and Technology’s Health Privacy Project.
5. Wait for broader health reforms or forge ahead? Dr. David Blumenthal, HHS’s national coordinator for health IT, said he hopes to strike a balance between incentives and penalties for EHR use. The rules must foster competitiveness, innovation, privacy and security, among other often-conflicting goals. But decisions are also looming about how hard HHS should push for health IT in advance of more comprehensive reforms that will affect health care access and payments.
“If we do not do the work on payment reforms, we will not really reap all the value of health IT,” McGraw said.
Above article published on http://fcw.com/Articles/2009/09/07/FEDLIST-5-steps-to-EHR-success.aspx?Page=1
September 09, 2009
ScienceDaily — A new framework of recommendations created by health informatics researchers may help doctors and hospitals prepare for a federal initiative to expand the use of electronic health records (EHRs).
The recommendations from faculty at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, the Michael E. DeBakey Veterans Affairs Medical Center and Baylor College of Medicine appear in a commentary in the Sept. 9 edition of JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association.
“With high-quality, well-designed, and carefully implemented systems, highly-reliable, safe health care will be achieved,” said Dean Sittig, Ph.D., commentary author, associate professor at The University of Texas School of Health Information Sciences at Houston and member of The University of Texas - Memorial Hermann Center for Healthcare Quality and Safety.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 created approximately $20 billion in incentives for individuals and organizations to “meaningfully” use electronic health records beginning next year. Previous studies report that 4 percent of physicians in the outpatient setting and 1.5 percent of U.S. hospitals have a comprehensive electronic health record system.
“This framework can help make sure that electronic health records are used safely and effectively as doctors continue to adopt them,” said Hardeep Singh, M.D., M.P.H. co-author and assistant professor of medicine and health services research at the VA Health Services Research and Development Center of Excellence and Baylor in Houston.
This framework of recommendations proposed by Sittig and Singh provides guidance for key stakeholders who are either currently involved or who will soon be involved with electronic health records.
“While using electronic health records, we not only have to consider issues related to technology, but also issues related to people who use them, how they interact with technology and how the electronic health record fits with the work flow of the clinic or organization that adopts it,” said Singh, who noted that if the Computerized Patient Record System developed by the Department of Veterans Affairs was included in the EHR-use study, the percentage of U.S. hospitals with a comprehensive electronic health record system would nearly double to 2.9 percent.
VA’s electronic health record system covers many aspects of patient care, including reminders for preventive health care, electronic entry of orders, display of laboratory test results, consultation requests, and pathology and imaging studies.
“The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act stipulates that clinicians and healthcare organizations can receive incentive payments for ‘meaningful use’ of EHRs. Depending on the definition and timeline for ‘meaningful use,’ this legislation could result in a rush to implement sub-optimal systems,” said Sittig, co-author of a new book that addresses EHR issues and is titled “Clinical Information Systems: Overcoming Adverse Consequences.”
For Americans to realize the full potential of electronic health records, which include reduced cost, less duplication and greater quality, Sittig and Singh believe all eight essentials, which are based on a systems engineering model for patient safety, should be followed.
“These issues are essential to maximize patient care benefits and minimize unintended errors from technology,” Singh said.
The commentary is titled “Eight rights of safe electronic health record use.” The authors received support from the National Library of Medicine, the VA National Center of Patient Safety, the Houston VA Health Services Research and Development Center of Excellence and the Agency for Health Care Research and Quality.
Above article published on http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090908193440.htm
August 27, 2009
By Brian Smith / Register News Writer The days of a white-coated doctor taking a pen from his pocket and making notations in a file are long gone.
With computers becoming smaller, cheaper and more portable, health care professionals are replacing paper records with electronic records that can be instantly accessed.
The Madison County Health Department’s home health division, MEPCO Home Health, is in the process of implementing an electronic medical records (EMR) system, department spokesperson Christie Green said, and will begin using the system on Sept. 1.
“EMRs will make things faster, more efficient and will provide a huge space savings,” Green said. “For example, MEPCO will be moving from nearly 200 square feet of filing space to electronic records housed in a server room of less than 40 feet.”
Federal health care reform efforts have focused on transitioning health care providers to EMR systems to increase efficiency and reduce spending.
Local public health director Jim Rousey said that an EMR system frees personnel to spend more time treating patients instead of making records.
“Every year, our home health nurses were spending more and more time fulfilling documentation requirements for patient care,” Rousey said.
“This interfered with what nurses really wanted to be doing, which was taking care of patients.
“Employing an electronic medical record system should reduce the amount of time it takes to document the care and ultimately provide more time with the patients,” he said.
Rousey said that using an EMR can take some adjustment for practitioners experienced in maintaining paper records.
“At the beginning, there is a steep learning curve for everyone. Sometimes it actually takes longer to use the EMR in the beginning, but the efficiency becomes apparent as everyone gets accustomed to the system,” Rousey said.
At Pattie A. Clay Regional Medical Center, which switched to an EMR system in 2004, the system has paid large benefits, said Joy Barnes, information technology director.
“The nurse at the bedside may need to spend more time to initially gather and document patient information, but the administration and reporting side of nursing has seen efficiency improvements in both time and accuracy of the patient chart,” Barnes said.
Cost is still a concern when transitioning to an EMR system, Green said, despite the decrease in equipment costs over the past few years.
“Less than a tenth of our total outlay for an electronic medical records system in MEPCO was for the hardware,” Green said. “The cost of installing, licensing, and maintaining a quality system is still extremely high — in the 100s of thousands of dollars, even for a small family practice.”
Security can be another concern, said Martin Hensley, information technology specialist for the health department.
“Controlling access and ensuring security is a problem that exists on a bigger scale than it did in the past,” Hensley said. “In the past, we could just lock a file room and the charts would be secure. Now, everyone in the agency must be more conscious of security. Each computer terminal or laptop can be a doorway to confidential medical information.”
Barnes and Green also both pointed to making wise choices about the systems that are implemented as a key component of implementing an EMR system.
“In the past, we used carts with laptop computers that were wheeled into each patient room,” Barnes said. “The carts were cumbersome and not the best option, especially in a semi-private room with two patients.
“With the new renovations in place, the nursing staff are testing hand-held computers developed specifically for the health care environment,” Barnes said.
“We have to be aware of the potential for the computer to come between the provider and the patient,” Green said. “For example, large screens may block a patient’s view, or a computer’s location in the room may cause the provider to turn her back to the patient.”
Despite the costs and concerns, Green said EMRs and other health technology have a benefit to patients.
“In the long run, electronic records will increase the speed and accuracy of the flow of information between providers,” Green said.
“This translates into improved quality of care for patients, as various providers can communicate about an individual’s health needs.”
Above article published on http://www.richmondregister.com/localnews/local_story_236085613.html?keyword=secondarystory
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